[Geysers] Challenges/demands for the geyser geek community.

[Andiy Wagner]

She was there? Where was she? We do not remember her there. (Okay we...lol.
I was a kid looking at water, but dad and my aunt Park Ranger Jeannine
Montgomery nee Wagner did not.) Not saying she wasn't. Trust me with a
three year old and a massive wave of water headed the way they were not
really looking for others. Was she on the road? She would not have wanted
to be on the back part of the crater. The picture my dad took from the side
was close enough and had it been a historical eruption - we would not be
here to tell the tale.
Jeannine said after the fact looking around that she didn't see anyone.
Which concerned her originally, but no one had walked passed them while
they were watching. They were doing a nose count at that time afterwards.
It was late in the day and most people had gone home or in Rick's
case...gone to check on other things. I think he regretted that one the
rest of his life.
Andiy

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Lynn Stephens <lstephens2006 at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  I'm sorry, but one person left off this list who was there recording data
> was Mary Ann Moss.  Rick's official report incorporated data from Jen and
> Mary Ann.
>
> Lynn Stephens
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:02:30 -0600
> From: diggerfieldmouse at gmail.com
> To: geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu
>
> Subject: Re: [Geysers] Challenges/demands for the geyser geek community.
>
> There is no video of the September 1985 Excelsior eruption. This is the
> only one really counted since the rest were just boils. That said there
> were only myself, my mother, my father, Jen Whipple, and my aunt there for
> it. If you would like my father's pictures feel free to ask me or him to
> allow you to use them for use (with the proper credits naturally. There is
> no video, however. I am sorry for that.
> As for Hutchinson's reports - they are all second hand. He was not there
> for that eruption. His wife and my father, however, were the primary
> documentary people for that.
>
> You know since you want it I figured you would want the primary sourcing.
> Andiy
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Eric Hatfield <conanvandt at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> Challenges/demands:
>
> 1) Reestablishment of real benchmarks for distance to vents.  This is
> possible.  We don't need to put nails and markers in the boardwalk or
> pavement, which are doomed to disappear in days.  We just need to know real
> distances between permanent features.  Grand to Belgian.  Fountain to
> Twig/Spasm.  Giant to GIP/Oblong.  Everywhere, the possibilities are
> endless and permanent.  We have put forth a huge effort toward recording
> times, producing tomes of data.  We get excited about Grand starts vs.
> Turban starts.  But who knows whether if a given geyser is BIGGER this year
> or not??  Nobody.  It's all guess and blurry memory.  What would we really
> get excited about?  2% more or less frequent, or BIGGER?
>
> We are ignoring the subjectively most important data point.  In the 90s, I
> tried to produce all these measurements with maps and rulers.  I abandoned
> the project after considerable effort, when it became clear that the maps
> were totally inaccurate when measured at these distances.  In the era of
> Google Earth, etc., can we produce a better method for real height
> measurement, and actually start measuring??  I open the floor to anyone
> with an idea.
>
> 2)  Youtube is now full of vids of our favorite rare geysers.  I have
> still not seen a video of a Steamboat major.  They exist.  UPLOAD THEM.
>
> 3) I will pay money to anyone who uploads the text of Hutchison's and the
> related reports of Excelsior in 1985 to the Internet.  I think they are in
> the transactions.  Will the transactions ever make an electronic appearance?
>
> 4) Videos of Excelsior in 1985 exist....
>
> 5) This list has still never reproduced the picture of Monarch Geyser I
> once saw in a book but have never seen again.  I've seen one picture of
> Imperial in full eruption in it's early days--in the national library in
> ICELAND....  Et cetera.
>
> 6) Ask questions of the list.  Let's prod ourselves to produce stuff we
> don't see often.  We currently know more about geysers than anyone has ever
> known, and this stuff will only disappear to history when we die.
>
> Could be fun!
>
> Wake up... Giant... Wake UP!
>
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