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Fri Jan 11 17:00:42 PST 2013
Udo Freund=20
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit =
there." --Will Rogers
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From: geysers-bounces at lists.wallawalla.edu =
[mailto:geysers-bounces at lists.wallawalla.edu] On Behalf Of Will Boekel
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 8:20 PM
To: Listserve
Subject: [Geysers] Time code - speed of progress
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Gazers,
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I am going to be up front, this may classify as a rant post but I feel =
that it needs to be made.
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I have been contacted by some people that think I am moving too fast =
about this whole code issue. I feel this is not the case. When I made =
the second survey I had not seen any listserve posts about this issue or =
any new survey submissions for just about two-three days. This led me to =
believe that everyone that wanted a say had voiced their opinions and =
that it was time to make the first fine tuning to the proposal. If there =
had been more discussion that was happening I probably would have =
waited. I am starting to hit the same point on the current survey but =
the number of responses on the survey have declined and I will be =
waiting for more people to respond, hopefully ASAP.
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Now I have heard that some people are having some personal discussion =
between gazers. This is fine but in the long run how is that =
conversation going to help the group as a whole move forward on this =
decision because I am not prepared to play telephone with everyone =
because that just puts us all on separate pages. So gazers, I think it =
is time to step up and have a real open discussion about this. Quit =
being afraid about causing a firestorm on the listserve just because you =
think your idea may be slightly outside the box. If people can=E2=80=99t =
see past your ideas (good or bad) and hate you for presenting them, then =
you probably shouldn=E2=80=99t be friends anyway. Also if we want to =
progress and become better gazers in the future then we must think =
outside the box and test these new ideas and theories as things are =
always changing and there will always be puzzles to solve.
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To my knowledge for this second survey I have included all the ideas for =
possible solutions to the issue. If I haven=E2=80=99t ether you =
didn=E2=80=99t post the idea somewhere I could see it or it slipped by =
me.
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SO PLEASE START DISCUSSING!!!
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Will Boekel
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#1F497D'>I=E2=80=99d venture to say that this is not a high =
priority for most of us on the list.=C2=A0 Gazing is our hobby.=C2=A0 =
Besides moving slowly perhaps that=E2=80=99s why the discussion =
diverged.=C2=A0 We are a diverse group splintered into sub-groups with =
individuals out on the fringes.=C2=A0 Herding us is like herding =
chickens.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Data gaps have been, and always will be there =
unless monitoring becomes a 24/7/365 activity.=C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s =
unlikely to ever happen.=C2=A0 One would hope that shrinking those gaps =
would be significant enough to justify the effort.=C2=A0 However, there =
could be some harm if a percentage of assumptions is wrong. =C2=A0But in =
the grand scheme of things, how important is this, =
really?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>Since you are much more engaged than the rest of =
us I suggest that you proceed with your plan and see how it goes.=C2=A0 =
Changes can always be made later on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#1F497D'>From one volunteer to another, I thank you for =
making the effort.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> <br></span><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Script MT =
Bold";color:#007600'>Udo Freund</span><span =
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D'> <br></span><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just =
sit there." --Will Rogers</span></i><span =
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D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
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geysers-bounces at lists.wallawalla.edu =
[mailto:geysers-bounces at lists.wallawalla.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will =
Boekel<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 12, 2013 8:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Listserve<br><b>Subject:</b> [Geysers] Time code - speed of =
progress<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Gazers,<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I am going to =
be up front, this may classify as a rant post but I feel that it needs =
to be made.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I have been =
contacted by some people that think I am moving too fast about this =
whole code issue. I feel this is not the case. When I made the second =
survey I had not seen any listserve posts about this issue or any new =
survey submissions for just about two-three days. This led me to believe =
that everyone that wanted a say had voiced their opinions and that it =
was time to make the first fine tuning to the proposal. If there had =
been more discussion that was happening I probably would have waited. I =
am starting to hit the same point on the current survey but the number =
of responses on the survey have declined and I will be waiting for more =
people to respond, hopefully ASAP.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Now I have =
heard that some people are having some personal discussion between =
gazers. This is fine but in the long run how is that conversation going =
to help the group as a whole move forward on this decision because I am =
not prepared to play telephone with everyone because that just puts us =
all on separate pages. So gazers, I think it is time to step up and have =
a real open discussion about this. Quit being afraid about causing a =
firestorm on the listserve just because you think your idea may be =
slightly outside the box. If people can=E2=80=99t see past your ideas =
(good or bad) and hate you for presenting them, then you probably =
shouldn=E2=80=99t be friends anyway. Also if we want to progress and =
become better gazers in the future then we must think outside the box =
and test these new ideas and theories as things are always changing and =
there will always be puzzles to =
solve.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>To my knowledge =
for this second survey I have included all the ideas for possible =
solutions to the issue. If I haven=E2=80=99t ether you didn=E2=80=99t =
post the idea somewhere I could see it or it slipped by =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>SO PLEASE START =
DISCUSSING!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Will =
Boekel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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