[Geysers] Challenges/demands for the geyser geek community.

Andiy Wagner diggerfieldmouse at gmail.com
Sun Sep 16 12:02:30 PDT 2012


There is no video of the September 1985 Excelsior eruption. This is the
only one really counted since the rest were just boils. That said there
were only myself, my mother, my father, Jen Whipple, and my aunt there for
it. If you would like my father's pictures feel free to ask me or him to
allow you to use them for use (with the proper credits naturally. There is
no video, however. I am sorry for that.
As for Hutchinson's reports - they are all second hand. He was not there
for that eruption. His wife and my father, however, were the primary
documentary people for that.

You know since you want it I figured you would want the primary sourcing.
Andiy

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Eric Hatfield <conanvandt at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Challenges/demands:
>
> 1) Reestablishment of real benchmarks for distance to vents.  This is
> possible.  We don't need to put nails and markers in the boardwalk or
> pavement, which are doomed to disappear in days.  We just need to know real
> distances between permanent features.  Grand to Belgian.  Fountain to
> Twig/Spasm.  Giant to GIP/Oblong.  Everywhere, the possibilities are
> endless and permanent.  We have put forth a huge effort toward recording
> times, producing tomes of data.  We get excited about Grand starts vs.
> Turban starts.  But who knows whether if a given geyser is BIGGER this year
> or not??  Nobody.  It's all guess and blurry memory.  What would we really
> get excited about?  2% more or less frequent, or BIGGER?
>
> We are ignoring the subjectively most important data point.  In the 90s, I
> tried to produce all these measurements with maps and rulers.  I abandoned
> the project after considerable effort, when it became clear that the maps
> were totally inaccurate when measured at these distances.  In the era of
> Google Earth, etc., can we produce a better method for real height
> measurement, and actually start measuring??  I open the floor to anyone
> with an idea.
>
> 2)  Youtube is now full of vids of our favorite rare geysers.  I have
> still not seen a video of a Steamboat major.  They exist.  UPLOAD THEM.
>
> 3) I will pay money to anyone who uploads the text of Hutchison's and the
> related reports of Excelsior in 1985 to the Internet.  I think they are in
> the transactions.  Will the transactions ever make an electronic appearance?
>
> 4) Videos of Excelsior in 1985 exist....
>
> 5) This list has still never reproduced the picture of Monarch Geyser I
> once saw in a book but have never seen again.  I've seen one picture of
> Imperial in full eruption in it's early days--in the national library in
> ICELAND....  Et cetera.
>
> 6) Ask questions of the list.  Let's prod ourselves to produce stuff we
> don't see often.  We currently know more about geysers than anyone has ever
> known, and this stuff will only disappear to history when we die.
>
> Could be fun!
>
> Wake up... Giant... Wake UP!
>
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