Well, I am done. I will no longer contribute to the Sput, post on the listserv, announce on the radio or write on the CamChat. My 55 years of notebooks will not be going anywhere. Once I am done I will trash them. Today, Jim decreed that no North Goggle minors less than 8 feet are to be recorded in the book or announced on the radio. In addition, he said that I had gone into the Visitor Center managed to get the log book and written times in it. The truth being that I was in the Visitor Center 2 nights ago giving them times, that they need to lock up, handed me the book and pen and said to enter them. Not quite the same thing. It seems that my name is no longer in the book, only folks that Jim vets are allowed to be in the book. Apparently the ranger thought I was someone else, although we had talked several times. I even asked him as he hurried away "you want me the write these in" and he replied yes, and to listen to the radio and record any I heard. So since the story being touted is a lie, I am done. Jim and his cronies may be great gazers, but they stifle many of the other folks and it is tolerated because he is great about recording times. So no need to post my message I sent originally, no need to post my photos of Black Sand Pool and certainly no need to publish or discuss my info for North Google. Which by the way today was interesting. North Google for the latest Lion Series stayed up after the Lion eruption. North Google has 1 foot minors every 11 to 12 minutes until the next Lion eruption. This explains the steam spikes that can be seen on the web cam. When Lion appears to go out of series Google stayed up contuing its 11 minute minors, finally draining at 12:16 (last Lion minor at noon). North Google then came back and had a 4-5 foot minor at 1301. Inez -----Original Message----- From: David Monteith <dmonteit at comcast.net> To: inezaustin <inezaustin at aol.com> Sent: Fri, May 4, 2012 11:23 pm Subject: Re: Geyser Gazing, chat page and the Sput (GOSA) Inez: I read your submission to the geyser list with interest. You make many good points. The behavior of some geyser gazers can appear cliquish, rude and/or indifferent. It has been a problem for years. I remember running into the same issues when I started gazing in the early 90's and feeling hurt when it happened. I don't like that geyser gazers are often perceived as being rude but I'm not certain how to address this issue. What I've learned over the years is that the issue is very touchy. When confronted by those that feel hurt by geyser gazers' discourtesy, geyser gazers end up feeling hurt. Most geyser gazers truly try to be inclusive so it hurts when they discover that others see them differently. When people have hurt feelings they stop listening. This is true of both sides. Instead of working to fix a real problem when this issue is brought up, everyone gets hurt, stops listening and gets defensive. Ultimately, confronting geyser gazers with their perceived rudeness doesn't help to solve the problem, it actually makes the problem worse. I'm not certain how to address this issue in a way that won't put the geyser gazers on the defensive. I'd like to hear your thoughts. Two other issues you should be aware of. First, I'm heading out of town and won't be able to post the list until I get home. Second, I'm not certain where you wanted your message printed other than the geyser list. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </geyser-list/attachments/20120513/8ce3cac4/attachment.html>