Deploying any instrument requires a research permit. As I recall, some of the old camera boxes worked some of the time, and some didn't work at all. It would be interesting to try for some geysers that are infrequent and do not lend themselves to the temperature loggers. Ralph Taylor _____ From: geysers-bounces at lists.wallawalla.edu [mailto:geysers-bounces at lists.wallawalla.edu] On Behalf Of Janet Johns Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 10:06 PM To: Geyser Observation Reports Subject: Re: [Geysers] Grotto shenanigans, and a researcher question Hey that would be like the old camera boxes at Daisy/Spendid! If I remember correctly, they worked most of the time. What goes around comes around! Nice idea. I wonder what kinds of permits it would require? From: GOSA Store <mailto:gosastore at roadrunner.com> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:55 PM To: 'Geyser Observation Reports' <mailto:geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu> Subject: RE: [Geysers] Grotto shenanigans, and a researcher question Lone Star might be an ideal candidate for a study using an infrared "game scouting" camera. Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops and even WalMart sell them and several are reasonably priced. One or more could be easily concealed in the nearby trees Most have camouflaged cases making them difficult to spot. They do not emit any visible flash at night, and are silent, hence unobtrusive. Not sure if they would be triggered by the heat of an eruption instead of Bambi walking by, but IMO worth a try. And, of course, some human observation to verify the camera's time stamped pictures would be needed. A few days of monitoring (or more if need be) could provide us with a more definitive answer. Label the project, "A Clockwork Infrared". J Udo Freund GOSA Store www.gosa.org From: geysers-bounces at lists.wallawalla.edu [mailto:geysers-bounces at lists.wallawalla.edu] On Behalf Of Janet Johns Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:20 PM To: Geyser Observation Reports Subject: Re: [Geysers] Grotto shenanigans, and a researcher question Dear Carolyn, Lew and I have both noticed that it did not "seem" to be clockwork geyser, but since we are recovering volunteers, we no longer time geysers. David Goldberg tried to interest us in a study of Lone Star because he also thought it wasn't clockwork, based on naturalist walks to the area. So your impression is probably just the same "feeling" that isn't documented. We figured some time ago that direct observation is the only way to correlate the minors, majors and changes in the duration. We don't think a probe would work without significant personal observation, if then. Hmmmm....why maybe a volunteer should spend some time in the area doing some documentation. Janet Johns From: carolyn loren <mailto:caroloren98 at hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:29 PM To: geyser listserve <mailto:geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu> Subject: [Geysers] Grotto shenanigans, and a researcher question Yesterday 2/18 I saw South Grotto Fountain at 0958 i.e. and post-marker-placement at 1022 i.e., and a visitor saw it still erupting at 1215 i.e. Grotto finally started near 1219 i.e. This morning 2/19 Grotto was i.e. at 0933, Old Tardy and West Triplet at 0915 i.e., Pyramid at 0958 i.e., Oblong at 1003 i.e., and Daisy at 1008. A guide just saw Aurum at 1348. The question is about Lone Star. The plaque on the wooden platform where the notebook is says that Lone Star has had a 3 hour interval since 1872. Does that statement come from a reliable source? Geysers of Yellowstone doesn't go quite so far... We've also noticed last summer, and to the extent we know this winter, that Lone Star sometimes jumps around an hour or two one day to the next. Lots of minors perhaps? Anyway, thanks! Carolyn Loren _____ _______________________________________________ Geysers mailing list Geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu _____ _______________________________________________ Geysers mailing list Geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </geyser-list/attachments/20110223/d8920877/attachment.html>