<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19019"> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Wingdings; } @font-face { font-family: Cambria Math; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Comic Sans MS; } @font-face { font-family: Calisto MT; } @page WordSection1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; 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COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Lone Star might be an ideal candidate for a study using an infrared “game scouting” camera.  Cabela’s, Bass Pro Shops and even WalMart sell them and several are reasonably priced.  One or more could be easily concealed in the nearby trees  Most have camouflaged cases making them difficult to spot.  They do not emit any visible flash at night, and are silent, hence unobtrusive.  Not sure if they would be triggered by the heat of an eruption instead of Bambi walking by, but IMO worth a try.  And, of course, some human observation to verify the camera’s time stamped pictures would be needed.  A few days of monitoring (or more if need be) could provide us with a more definitive answer.  Label the project, “A Clockwork Infrared”.  </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">J</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; 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FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> geysers-bounces@lists.wallawalla.edu [mailto:geysers-bounces@lists.wallawalla.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Janet Johns<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Geyser Observation Reports<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Geysers] Grotto shenanigans, and a researcher question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dear Carolyn,</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Lew and I have both noticed that it did not "seem" to be clockwork geyser, but since we are recovering volunteers, we no longer time geysers.  David Goldberg tried to interest us in a study of Lone Star because he also thought it wasn't clockwork, based on naturalist walks to the area.  So your impression is probably just the same "feeling" that isn't documented. We figured some time ago that direct observation is the only way to correlate the minors, majors and changes in the duration.  We don't think a probe would work without significant personal observation, if then. Hmmmm....why maybe a volunteer should spend some time in the area doing some documentation.  </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Janet Johns</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A title="mailto:caroloren98@hotmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:caroloren98@hotmail.com">carolyn loren</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:29 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A title=geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu href="mailto:geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu">geyser listserve</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> [Geysers] Grotto shenanigans, and a researcher question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Yesterday 2/18 I saw South Grotto Fountain at 0958 i.e. and post-marker-placement at 1022 i.e., and a visitor saw it still erupting at 1215 i.e.  Grotto finally started near 1219 i.e.   <BR> <BR>This morning 2/19  Grotto was i.e. at 0933, Old Tardy and West Triplet at 0915 i.e., Pyramid at 0958 i.e., Oblong at 1003 i.e., and Daisy at 1008.<BR> <BR>A guide just saw Aurum at 1348.<BR> <BR>The question is about Lone Star.  The plaque on the wooden platform where the notebook is says that Lone Star has had a 3 hour interval since 1872.  Does that statement come from a reliable source?  Geysers of Yellowstone doesn't go quite so far...  We've also noticed last summer, and to the extent we know this winter, that Lone Star sometimes jumps around an hour or two one day to the next.  Lots of minors perhaps?  Anyway, thanks!<BR> <BR>Carolyn Loren<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%"> </SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">_______________________________________________<BR>Geysers mailing list<BR>Geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu<BR>https://lists.wallawalla.edu/mailman/listinfo/geysers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P> <HR> <P></P>_______________________________________________<BR>Geysers mailing list<BR>Geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu<BR>https://lists.wallawalla.edu/mailman/listinfo/geysers<BR></BODY></HTML>