[Geysers] OFVC Logbook -- Please Read

Jacob Young jakefrisbee at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 9 21:28:58 PDT 2010


I have been thinking about an electronic log book for a while now.  I am happy to lend my programming services to such a project.  A web-based log book would be fairly easy to setup so that anyone with a web browser could add entries.  Each entry can be tagged with the enterers name so future users of the data could say whether it is a 'VR' or not.  An entry could be linked to a YouTube video of the eruption. The possibilities are endless. 

With full signal 3G cell reception in the UGB and the advent of smart phones making the real-time update of eruptions from the Monkey Cage a possibility, the time for this is now.

I will be embarking on a project for this soon so please contact me with ideas.  I need to speak with Mr. Koenig of geysers.org too since he already has something like this running.

-Jake Young

On Aug 8, 2010 18:17, GOSA Store <gosastore at roadrunner.com> wrote: 





The Old Faithful Logbook is an official U.S. Federal Government document,
not simply a notepad like the ones we carry around in the basins.  As such
it isn’t to be treated lightly.  I’m fairly certain that access
to the logbook falls under, among others, the Freedom of Information Act, which
governs the public’s rights to access government documents.  U.S. Code
552 basically states that copies of any public record must be made available
upon request, but may require payment of a fee for the cost incurred in
copying.  Looking at original documents may be restricted for various
reasons.  The responsible agency, in this case NPS, should have rules in
place regarding access to their original documents.

 

In the past I have been told that I could not write in the
log.  Fine, I have no problem with that and will share my personally
collected data as I see fit.  I think now is a good time to discuss building
and maintaining a GOSA logbook (preferably electronic) that is kept totally separate
from NPS.

 

Udo Freund

GOSA Store

www.gosa.org

 



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Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 8:34 PM

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Subject: Re: [Geysers] OFVC Logbook -- Please Read



 

I think we would all like clarification on this.  I, for
decades, entered times for obscure geysers.  Then about ten years ago I
was pretty much told to take a hike.  Consequently I stopped.  In the
last two years when I have requested to see the log I was told no.  So as
far as I am concerned the powers that be and I have split the sheets.  If
we are once again going to help out with times, I want to know that the battle
to get into the VC and do it is worth the effort.  There will be no second
chances again as far as I am concerned. Inez 



 





 





 





 





-----Original Message-----

From: Ken Reeves <kreeves5 at cox.net>

To: Geyser Observation Reports <geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu>

Sent: Fri, Aug 6, 2010 7:40 am

Subject: Re: [Geysers] OFVC Logbook -- Please Read



Dave, 

 

Can you please provide what should or should not be turned in, how we get it
into the logbook, which geysers should we turn in, etc. especially for those of
us who are fairly new or don't get up there very frequently. 

 

A few years ago, I turned in my observations of some of the lesser geysers, I
believe it was Solitaire Geyser, but was told by the ranger at the visitor
center, that "we do not record data for that geyser", and it kind of
left me with a bad taste on spending the time to gather the data. 

 

Thanks 

 

Ken Reeves 

 

David Monteith wrote: 

> .... To be successful, 

> geyser gazers need to share information. The logbook provides a 

> centralized place for us to put that information. I'm being very 

> selfish here. I want to know what is going on. The logbook provides 

> the details that don't get onto the list serve. I doesn't matter if
the 

> NPS wants the information or scientists of park visitors. What
matters 

> is that we, the geyser gazer community, want the information. So
please 

> take the time to get your data into the logbook. Your efforts will
be 

> greatly appreciated. 

> 

>  

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