[Geysers] *SPAM?* Re: *SPAM?* RE: Old Faithful night shot (correct link)

[Karen Webb]

Boy, I don't see why anyone thought the Stonehenge
shot was bogus; it's 
just very well set up.
    The fellow who took the OF shot is fairly
reachable by email.  I had 
written to say, "What a great shot, how did you do
it?" a few days ago 
and got a "thanks, I take lots of pictures" answer
(not that this is 
that different from a lot of people who really don't
read emails beyond 
the first sentence and respond to one and only one
thought).  I just 
tried again asking for specifics.  I'd say the meteor
shower shots on 
his site must have been altered a little as well, but
they're very 
dramatic nonetheless.  (I'm surprised no one has
mentioned the single 
star done with the stellate filter -- I thought with
multiple points of 
light like this, you got the stellate effect on
everything).
Karen Webb

Paul Strasser wrote:
> Allan:
>
> I too have wondered about its authenticity.  First
off, it is NOT a photo of
> it in eruption.  Period.  It's just OF giving off
nice little bits of steam
> on a particularly still night.  I have taken time
exposures in the geyser
> basin and steam does very weird things - can look
like trains of feathers,
> as a matter of fact, and definitely appeared
photoshopped.  But that's how
> they turned out.
>
> Of greater concern is the lack of trailing, as you
indicate. Either the sky
> will trail, or the ground will trail.  I have some
great photos of Hale-Bopp
> in which either the comet or the trees are trailing
(this was with 1000 ISO
> film).  Put simply, in a time exposure you cannot
have both trees and sky
> crystal clear.    I've copied the photo into
photoshop AND PSP and see zero
> evidence of blurring in either stars or trees.  
>
> You need an exposure of several minutes with VERY
fast film to capture the
> milky way so beautifully, and in that time the
ground would be a huge smear.
>
> I am NOT saying that this is phony.  I'm just saying
that someone with some
> experience in such astrophotography is utterly
flummoxed as to how it was
> done.  So - the question to the photographer - how
did you do it?
>
> BTW, my brother had an "astronomy photo of the day"
of Stonehenge on the
> summer solstice.  Totally real, but several people
complained to the site
> that it HAD to have been bogus.  
>
> Paul Strasser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geysers-bounces at wwc.edu
[mailto:geysers-bounces at wwc.edu] On Behalf Of
> Moose, Allan E.
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 3:38 PM
> To: geyser observation reports
> Subject: Re: [Geysers] Old Faithful night shot
(correct link)
>
> Personally, I'm skeptical that this is an actual
photograph. Rather, I think
> it was a "manufactured" (i.e. Photo Shopped)
picture.  My evidence for this
> is as follows:
>
> (1) In order to get a picture of the Milky Way with
that much detail and
> coloring, and especially the reddish pink blobs that
are likely gaseous
> nebulae, you would need to do a time exposure with
the camera mounted on an
> equatorial mount.
>
> (2) If there was enough light to show the tree line
as clearly as shown,
> then during a time exposure there Old Faithful would
have put up numerous
> steam puffs that would have left a steam smear in
the picture. If you have
> the camera stationary to get Old Faithful without
smears, then a time
> exposure results in star trails.
>
> (3) Look at the top of the steam cloud from Old
Faithful. To me that appears
> totally bogus. The structure of the water flow
within the water column
> during an OF eruption is very different from what is
shown and the steam
> rising off the column does not feather out into
wisps as shown.
>
> Allan
> ________________________________________
> From: geysers-bounces at wwc.edu
[geysers-bounces at wwc.edu] On Behalf Of Lotus
> Baker [lotusb3 at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:44 AM
> To: geyser observation reports
> Subject: Re: [Geysers] Old Faithful night shot
(correct link)
>
> The curious thing about this otherwise beautiful
picture, is that it
> doesn't quite make
> sense.  The photographer was facing south (give or
take a few degrees) in
> late twilight.
> >From that vantage point, there should be benches
and a ranger station in
> the background.   I've tried to rationalize this by
saying it was an
> extremely low camera
> angle, but I don't believe that totally explains it.
 Any thoughts?
>
> Keith Baker
>
>
>   
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Greg W <ikscx at yahoo.com>
>> To: geyser observation reports <geysers at wwc.edu>
>> Date: 8/8/07 5:03:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Geysers] Old Faithful night shot
(correct link)
>>
>>  - - - - And the evident ignorance (geyser wise) of
>> the caption writer was surprising.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Kevin & Sherri Leany <ksleany at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Here is a great night shot of Old Faithful on the
>>> NASA web page (with the correct link this time).
>>> Beautiful night sky.
>>>
>>> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070807.html
>>>
>>> Kevin Leany
>>> ksleany at cox.net>
>>>       
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