One thing about these short post-marathons. I've seen two types. In one there is no Grotto Marathon, but Grotto just sort of sloshes a bit, then builds up strength and - by gosh - it sure looks like an eruption. Then Grotto fades away and stops after 25-30 minutes. The other kind is what Scott (and previously moi) saw this year. A full blown Grotto Marathon, then a real Grotto start (big whoosh, etc.) then a real Rocket. Then a real stop. Also, the one I saw (and I assume Scott also) this year took place at the expected time for the true post-Marathon eruption - many hours after the end of the marathon. Paul Strasser _____ From: geysers-bounces at wwc.edu [mailto:geysers-bounces at wwc.edu] On Behalf Of Jan and Lew Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:08 PM To: geyser observation reports Subject: Re: [Geysers] RE: Short Early Grotto Postmarathon Shortest Grotto we recorded 7/22/95 Start 2:58 End 12:04 (Lew visual end 12:19) 556 minutes duration Start 1513 End 1538 24 minutes duration We both were there in the morning taking stupid notes about the marathon pool and the eternal (I mean variable) spring. Seems we spent the morning watching them do nothing very interesting then we went to the hill. It seems we were watching Beehive at 1551 that day. So a Rocket would be possible since no one would have been looking that way. I do think that we went through stuff with David and David and came up with the notion of a "false marathon stop" with great glee.....(its even in our notes) what fun it was! Jan and Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen <mailto:yellowstonekaren at yahoo.com> Low To: geyser observation <mailto:geysers at wwc.edu> reports Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:43 AM Subject: [Geysers] RE: Short Early Grotto Postmarathon I haven't seen anything like the short Grottos Scott and Paul described, but it sparks a memory. Whichever year (1997) the Johns were conducting a Grotto study they noted a few times when Grotto erupted very early after a marathon. Sometimes only a few hours after the end of a long marathon. These eruptions were very short (less than an hour) and seemed count as a little extra duration on the marathon in the sense that if you added their duration to the marathon and counted the marathon interval to the next 'real' Grotto it was about what the duration/interval formula would have predicted. None of these were seen that year so it's possible that Rocket had strong, early eruptions in those too. David Goldberg (from Karen's email account) _____ Start <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34442/*http:/www.yahoo.com/r/hs> your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page _____ _______________________________________________ Geysers mailing list Geysers at wwc.edu https://mailman.wwc.edu/mailman/listinfo/geysers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </geyser-list/attachments/20050817/1d79e0eb/attachment.html>