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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">On the day that tour bus driver Herb Vaughn
reported seeing Excelsior in eruption in 1985 (it's always been my understanding
that Herb was the first to report it), I was working that day and could not get
down there until evening. After I arrived on the scene, I witnessed an eruption
on the order of 60 feet high and 60 feet wide. Is this the same one you speak of
below?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Leslie Quinn</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=diggerfieldmouse@gmail.com
href="mailto:diggerfieldmouse@gmail.com">Andiy Wagner</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Geysers] Challenges/demands
for the geyser geek community.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>There is no video of the September 1985 Excelsior eruption.
This is the only one really counted since the rest were just boils. That said
there were only myself, my mother, my father, Jen Whipple, and my aunt there
for it. If you would like my father's pictures feel free to ask me or him to
allow you to use them for use (with the proper credits naturally. There is no
video, however. I am sorry for that. <BR>As for Hutchinson's reports - they
are all second hand. He was not there for that eruption. His wife and my
father, however, were the primary documentary people for that. <BR><BR>You
know since you want it I figured you would want the primary sourcing.
<BR>Andiy<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Eric Hatfield <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:conanvandt@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>conanvandt@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Challenges/demands:</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">1)
Reestablishment of real benchmarks for distance to vents. This is
possible. We don't need to put nails and markers in the boardwalk or
pavement, which are doomed to disappear in days. We just need to know
real distances between permanent features. Grand to Belgian.
Fountain to Twig/Spasm. Giant to GIP/Oblong. Everywhere,
the possibilities are endless and permanent. We have put forth a huge
effort toward recording times, producing tomes of data. We get excited
about Grand starts vs. Turban starts. But who knows whether if a given
geyser is BIGGER this year or not?? Nobody. It's all guess and
blurry memory. What would we really get excited about? 2% more
or less frequent, or BIGGER?</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">We
are ignoring the subjectively most important data point. In the 90s, I
tried to produce all these measurements with maps and rulers. I
abandoned the project after considerable effort, when it became clear that
the maps were totally inaccurate when measured at these distances. In
the era of Google Earth, etc., can we produce a better method for real
height measurement, and actually start measuring?? I open the floor to
anyone with an idea.</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">2)
Youtube is now full of vids of our favorite rare geysers. I have
still not seen a video of a Steamboat major. They exist. UPLOAD
THEM.</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">3)
I will pay money to anyone who uploads the text of Hutchison's and the
related reports of Excelsior in 1985 to the Internet. I think they are
in the transactions. Will the transactions ever make an electronic
appearance?</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">4)
Videos of Excelsior in 1985 exist....</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px"><BR></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">5)
This list has still never reproduced the picture of Monarch Geyser I once
saw in a book but have never seen again. I've seen one picture of
Imperial in full eruption in it's early days--in the national library in
ICELAND.... Et cetera.</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">6)
Ask questions of the list. Let's prod ourselves to produce stuff we
don't see often. We currently know more about geysers than anyone has
ever known, and this stuff will only disappear to history when we die.</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">Could
be fun!</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: 'times new roman','new york',times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px">Wake
up... Giant... Wake
UP!</DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Geysers
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