<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> A few years ago I dutifully went to the temp VC with the times of several Giant Hot Periods I recorded at night.  I wrote them on a separate piece of paper and handed them to a naturalist behind the counter (the VC was basically empty).  I said although I’d been entering logbook entries for decades I knew the protocols had changed.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> The naturalist declined to put them in.  (He’s not there any more).  He told me that all he’d be doing all day was put in Giant hot period times in the logbook.  This was when its HP’s were about 2-3 hours apart.   I thought of their charming obsession with Plume, shrugged, and left the VC.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I did tell others of the times, so assume they eventually got in the logbook.  I don’t hide any info or data, but will not go out of my way to try and convince the VC to accept my data.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It’s so weird, cuz I know several naturalists who wouldn’t care at all about the lists of approved names and just hand me the logbook.  My option is pretty easy – I give specific data to some “official” gazers and be done with it.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Paul Strasser<o:p></o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: geysers-bounces@lists.wallawalla.edu [mailto:geysers-bounces@lists.wallawalla.edu] On Behalf Of inezaustin@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 9:34 PM To: geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu Subject: Re: [Geysers] OFVC Logbook -- Please Read<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> I think we would all like clarification on this.  I, for decades, entered times for obscure geysers.  Then about ten years ago I was pretty much told to take a hike.  Consequently I stopped.  In the last two years when I have requested to see the log I was told no.  So as far as I am concerned the powers that be and I have split the sheets.  If we are once again going to help out with times, I want to know that the battle to get into the VC and do it is worth the effort.  There will be no second chances again as far as I am concerned. Inez <o:p></o:p> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> -----Original Message----- From: Ken Reeves <kreeves5@cox.net> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Geyser Observation Reports</st1:PersonName> <geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu> Sent: Fri, Aug 6, 2010 7:40 am Subject: Re: [Geysers] OFVC Logbook -- Please Read<o:p></o:p> <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_0a05813b-51af-411b-a209-183e1df2cbef"> Dave,    Can you please provide what should or should not be turned in, how we get it into the logbook, which geysers should we turn in, etc. especially for those of us who are fairly new or don't get up there very frequently.    A few years ago, I turned in my observations of some of the lesser geysers, I believe it was Solitaire Geyser, but was told by the ranger at the visitor center, that "we do not record data for that geyser", and it kind of left me with a bad taste on spending the time to gather the data.    Thanks    Ken Reeves    David Monteith wrote:  > .... To be successful,  > geyser gazers need to share information. The logbook provides a  > centralized place for us to put that information. I'm being very  > selfish here. I want to know what is going on. The logbook provides  > the details that don't get onto the list serve. I doesn't matter if the  > NPS wants the information or scientists of park visitors. What matters  > is that we, the geyser gazer community, want the information. So please  > take the time to get your data into the logbook. Your efforts will be  > greatly appreciated.  >  >   _______________________________________________  Geysers mailing list  <a href="mailto:Geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu">Geysers@lists.wallawalla.edu</a>  <a href="https://lists.wallawalla.edu/mailman/listinfo/geysers" target="_blank">https://lists.wallawalla.edu/mailman/listinfo/geysers</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </div>  </body> </html>