Kitt Barger was out last night 28 June to watch for the Indicator and it started at 2256 with Beehive at 2318 in moonlight. The next Beehive was at 0924 (Indicator at 0904)today 29 June. Indeed Graham, with the greater than 30 minute lead time for Beehive's Indicator with the 1827 Beehive (29 June), it looks as if Beehive's Indicator could take over at some point and we might have few Beehives for awhile. Today 29 June there was a Churn at 0550 and Penta at 1118ns (d~3h 11m). Mary Beth Schwarz