<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> My first impression was that it was N. Goggles Geyser.  But after further review I believe that it's Goggle Spring.  It appears to be coming up from ground level (obscured by terrain in front of it) at the base of Lion's mound.  N. Goggles is further uphill to the right and close to the sign at the boardwalk intersection.  I think that sign can be seen as the first light speck to the right of the steam. Does Goggle Spring always erupt the way it's described here?  Could it have had a vertical spurt that coincidentally was captured?  To me it looks like a separate event with Lion's steam in front of it. For the cartographically challenged I've attached a detailed map of the Hill, which includes Old Faithful to give some perspective.  Sadly the map does not include the cam location, which is shown in a satellite view at URL: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nps.gov/archive/yell/tours/livecams/oldfaithful/satellitecameralocation.jpg">http://www.nps.gov/archive/yell/tours/livecams/oldfaithful/satellitecameralocation.jpg</a> Too bad the picture's resolution isn't better.  The attached map is hi-res and therefore a large file.  I apologize to those on dial-up but hope it proves useful for this and other mysteries. Udo Ron Keam wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="midf06200701c12fc32c06d7@%5B130.216.55.105%5D"> <pre wrap="">The postings on this matter lead me to ask: Does a very detailed map of the locations of the springs on Geyser Hill, and indeed the whole area back to OF Lodge exist? (I have a recollection of being told that this was the case during a very early conversation I had with Scott Bryan.) If so, and if also a reasonably accurate location for the camera is known, then it ought to be possible quite readily to determine the direction of the line-of-sight to the steam cloud that appears to show something erupting. If the line-of-sight intersects the location of a thermal spring, then this becomes a prime candidate for the source of the cloud. (Of course there could be ambiguities if more than one spring lies on the l-o-s, and there is still a reasonable probability that it is a Lion cloud masquerading - as several others have suggested.) This is a process I have used several times in my own investigations of geographic features in the New Zealand thermal region - particularly with historical photos. Ron Keam </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I removed the data logger from North Goggles Geyser since it was dormant and I needed the logger elsewhere, so I cannot be sure whether there have been eruptions or not. I will place one on the geyser this Saturday, but can only leave it there until the end of the month. Dick Powell, David Monteith and I looked over the North Goggles Geyser and Goggles Spring area very closely and could see no signs of a recent eruption. It seems almost certain that a major eruption of North Goggles would have killed microbial mat and probably some grass, and leave signs of wash in the runoff channels, but there were no such signs. According to David Monteith, who has seen an eruption of Goggles Spring in the past, there was a large volume of water, angled toward the boardwalk. The splash zone showed no signs of new wash, the microbial mats appeared to me to be intact, and there was no evidence of recent wash. All this is somewhat circumstantial, but I could not see any evidence of a recent eruption of either Goggles Spring or North Goggles Geyser. The location in the photo looks closer to Goggles Spring than to North Goggles Geyser to me, but it is really hard to be sure. Something sure made that cloud, but I'd have to go with the previously noted possibility of a puff of steam from a Lion roar rather than a major eruption of either Goggles or North Goggles. Just my opinion, of course. Ralph Taylor From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geysers-bounces@wwc.edu">geysers-bounces@wwc.edu</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:geysers-bounces@wwc.edu">mailto:geysers-bounces@wwc.edu</a>] On Behalf Of LC and Nellie Daugherty Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:45 PM To: geyser observation reports Subject: [Geysers] Lion and ? (N.Goggles) Assuming that was North Goggles in eruption with Lion, and that is my guess, I have a question. When did North Goggles start erupting again? I don't remember seeing a North Gottles eruption that looked that big. LC Daugherty _______________________________________________ Geysers mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Geysers@wwc.edu">Geysers@wwc.edu</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mailman.wwc.edu/mailman/listinfo/geysers">https://mailman.wwc.edu/mailman/listinfo/geysers</a> </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>