[Geysers] Geysers Digest, Vol 2897, Issue 1

Gary Henderson goh83642 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 24 18:10:12 PST 2014


Hi Geyser list,

   I have been going into Yellowstone for over sixty years (with parents
and family), and with my own family (wife and kids).  I like YNP so much
that I bought a summer home in Island Park, Id.  We've owned the "cabin"
for nearly 25 years.  I am not wealthy, am on SS and it puts a big hole in
my pocket to just get there from Boise, Idaho now.  If it wasn't for my
"Senior Pass", a bunch of my family can't afford the entrance fee after
Gas, Food, etc. just to go into the Park.
  I have lived from the time of entrance fee of $2.50 included two weeks of
free park camp ground camping.  Renting a "Camper cabin" was $2.00/per
night.  Gas was $0.19 per gallon.  Back then even the lowest income people
could drive 400 miles and afford to go to the most wonderful National Park
in the world.  Who can say that now?
  Oh yes and you could catch and keep three fish per person on the
Yellowstone River after the opening of the river to fishing on 1st of July
each year.  That ment - free food to eat also.

  A lot of things have changed in my life time - so all you kids out there
don't really know what it was like fifty years ago and how great it was to
be able to afford to visit the Park and "Chase the bears".

   Gary Henderson - Meridian, Idaho

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>    1. Entrance and Backcountry Fee (mmjustus at mmjustus.com)
>    2. Entrance and Backcountry Fee (mmjustus at mmjustus.com)
>    3. Re: Entrance and Backcountry Fee (David Prast)
>    4. Re: Entrance and Backcountry Fee (Janet Johns)
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> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:05:11 -0800
> From: <mmjustus at mmjustus.com>
> To: "Geyser Observation Reports" <geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu>
> Subject: [Geysers] Entrance and Backcountry Fee
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> I disagree wholeheartedly with this, especially for people who live within
> a reasonably short drive (say within a tank of gas) and make trips to the
> park on a shoestring.  Or who have to save pennies to make trips to the
> national parks.  Every dollar counts.  This is how I visit national parks,
> and I will tell you that yes, doubling the entrance fee would make a huge
> difference to people like me.  And there are a lot more of us than those
> making this argument seem to think there are.
>
> Meg Justus
>
>
> I agree with Ben.  The cost is a real bargain?Disneyland and Disney World
> charge $100 per day.  It seems to me highly unlikely that the small rise in
> entrance fee would prevent any but the most casual potential visitor from
> coming, considering the cost of travel and other expenses.
>
>
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> Ralph Taylor
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> From: <mmjustus at mmjustus.com>
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> Too, the people who compare the prices for Disneyland and other for-profit
> entertainment with the parks are really missing the point.  National parks
> are government entities, not businesses.
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> From: David Prast <davidjprast at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Geysers] Entrance and Backcountry Fee
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> Having reviewed the minutes if the meeting that were provided, I noticed
> there was no mention of the the specific use of the additional revenue. It
> would seem there is no interest in a shuttle system (thank goodness) and
> the no interest in expanded parking at Fountain Paint Pots even though the
> number of automobile parking spaces was reduced during the last parking lot
> project.  So....what is the "plan" for the additional revenue? Is there a
> specific designated project for the additional revenue?
>
> Just wondering,
>
> David Prast
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM, <mmjustus at mmjustus.com> wrote:
>
> >   I disagree wholeheartedly with this, especially for people who live
> > within a reasonably short drive (say within a tank of gas) and make trips
> > to the park on a shoestring.  Or who have to save pennies to make trips
> to
> > the national parks.  Every dollar counts.  This is how I visit national
> > parks, and I will tell you that yes, doubling the entrance fee would
> make a
> > huge difference to people like me.  And there are a lot more of us than
> > those making this argument seem to think there are.
> >
> > Meg Justus
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with Ben.  The cost is a real bargain--Disneyland and Disney
> World
> > charge $100 per day.  It seems to me highly unlikely that the small rise
> in
> > entrance fee would prevent any but the most casual potential visitor from
> > coming, considering the cost of travel and other expenses.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ralph Taylor
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> >
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> From: Janet Johns <pinkconemtgo at gmail.com>
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> For many, many years we went to Yellowstone on a very short budget.  We
> could not pay the present fee during those years let alone a doubling of
> that fee.  I find it very sad that the National Parks went from free to
> everyone to such a high admission in my working life.  We used to camp for
> free across this land and visit National Parks.  We made it to Yellowstone
> on every penny we could save (I do mean pennies) and every cash present we
> got from my relatives.  I say we need to triple the rate for any tour
> groups (especially overseas) and LOWER it for the rest of us.  Is it  a
> bargain?  Not if you can't afford it.
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM, <mmjustus at mmjustus.com> wrote:
>
> >   I disagree wholeheartedly with this, especially for people who live
> > within a reasonably short drive (say within a tank of gas) and make trips
> > to the park on a shoestring.  Or who have to save pennies to make trips
> to
> > the national parks.  Every dollar counts.  This is how I visit national
> > parks, and I will tell you that yes, doubling the entrance fee would
> make a
> > huge difference to people like me.  And there are a lot more of us than
> > those making this argument seem to think there are.
> >
> > Meg Justus
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with Ben.  The cost is a real bargain?Disneyland and Disney World
> > charge $100 per day.  It seems to me highly unlikely that the small rise
> in
> > entrance fee would prevent any but the most casual potential visitor from
> > coming, considering the cost of travel and other expenses.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ralph Taylor
> >
> >
> >
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