Not a geyser item, but... while I think Jake's "plea" was pretty much tongue in cheek, I think Meg's response rather dumb. Sorry. People got along without DST for a great many centuries and pretty much did just fine. Developed whole civilizations, even. Scott Bryan (sorry, couldn't help myself, as I haven't been The Curmudgeon in quite a long time) In a message dated 5/12/2013 6:37:57 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, megj at nwlink.com writes: But if Daylight Savings Time was repealed, it would get light here in western Washington before four in the morning in June, or, if we kept DST year round, it would get dark at three in the afternoon in December. I don’t know where you live, Jake, but these facts are just as disruptive to a lot of us as DST is to programmers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </geyser-list/attachments/20130512/4697eccb/attachment.html>