[Geysers] Challenges/demands for the geyser geek community.

Andiy Wagner diggerfieldmouse at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 17:41:49 PDT 2012


No. The the eruption we saw was quoted at 80 feet by my father and 25
meters by Jen Whipple (the measurement officially in Rick's notes, though
the two guesses are within inches of each other) . It was as wide as the
crater, there was like a bow wave that crashed into the side and scared the
crap out of my parents. Remember I as three and playing on the boardwalk.
Dad was deciding if he had to pick me up and run for it. That was the large
eruption.
If Herb was the first to report it (or one of the minors - and by minor I
mean anything under like 40 feet - that said the major was a minor compared
to historical accounts), it may have been that because Jen and Jeannine
were both off duty at the time that they did not have their radios on them.
That said if I remember correctly, Jen ran to her car and reported it after
the major part was done.
I do know that Jeannine and Jen tried to get a nose count after for who was
there and they did not find anyone in the direct vicinity. Could be people
left or something, though why you would leave that in the middle - who
knows.
Andiy.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Ruth & Leslie Quinn <
ruthleslie.ynp at gmail.com> wrote:

> **
> On the day that tour bus driver Herb Vaughn reported seeing Excelsior in
> eruption in 1985 (it's always been my understanding that Herb was the first
> to report it), I was working that day and could not get down there until
> evening. After I arrived on the scene, I witnessed an eruption on the order
> of 60 feet high and 60 feet wide. Is this the same one you speak of below?
> Leslie Quinn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Andiy Wagner <diggerfieldmouse at gmail.com>
> *To:* Geyser Observation Reports <geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Geysers] Challenges/demands for the geyser geek community.
>
> There is no video of the September 1985 Excelsior eruption. This is the
> only one really counted since the rest were just boils. That said there
> were only myself, my mother, my father, Jen Whipple, and my aunt there for
> it. If you would like my father's pictures feel free to ask me or him to
> allow you to use them for use (with the proper credits naturally. There is
> no video, however. I am sorry for that.
> As for Hutchinson's reports - they are all second hand. He was not there
> for that eruption. His wife and my father, however, were the primary
> documentary people for that.
>
> You know since you want it I figured you would want the primary sourcing.
> Andiy
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Eric Hatfield <conanvandt at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>  Challenges/demands:
>>
>> 1) Reestablishment of real benchmarks for distance to vents.  This is
>> possible.  We don't need to put nails and markers in the boardwalk or
>> pavement, which are doomed to disappear in days.  We just need to know real
>> distances between permanent features.  Grand to Belgian.  Fountain to
>> Twig/Spasm.  Giant to GIP/Oblong.  Everywhere, the possibilities are
>> endless and permanent.  We have put forth a huge effort toward recording
>> times, producing tomes of data.  We get excited about Grand starts vs.
>> Turban starts.  But who knows whether if a given geyser is BIGGER this year
>> or not??  Nobody.  It's all guess and blurry memory.  What would we really
>> get excited about?  2% more or less frequent, or BIGGER?
>>
>> We are ignoring the subjectively most important data point.  In the 90s,
>> I tried to produce all these measurements with maps and rulers.  I
>> abandoned the project after considerable effort, when it became clear that
>> the maps were totally inaccurate when measured at these distances.  In the
>> era of Google Earth, etc., can we produce a better method for real height
>> measurement, and actually start measuring??  I open the floor to anyone
>> with an idea.
>>
>> 2)  Youtube is now full of vids of our favorite rare geysers.  I have
>> still not seen a video of a Steamboat major.  They exist.  UPLOAD THEM.
>>
>> 3) I will pay money to anyone who uploads the text of Hutchison's and the
>> related reports of Excelsior in 1985 to the Internet.  I think they are in
>> the transactions.  Will the transactions ever make an electronic appearance?
>>
>> 4) Videos of Excelsior in 1985 exist....
>>
>> 5) This list has still never reproduced the picture of Monarch Geyser I
>> once saw in a book but have never seen again.  I've seen one picture of
>> Imperial in full eruption in it's early days--in the national library in
>> ICELAND....  Et cetera.
>>
>> 6) Ask questions of the list.  Let's prod ourselves to produce stuff we
>> don't see often.  We currently know more about geysers than anyone has ever
>> known, and this stuff will only disappear to history when we die.
>>
>> Could be fun!
>>
>> Wake up... Giant... Wake UP!
>>
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