From meechg at verizon.net Thu Sep 1 19:12:54 2011 From: meechg at verizon.net (Graham Meech) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 22:12:54 -0400 Subject: [Geysers] Webcam and other times 9/1/2011 In-Reply-To: <009301cc684e$27dcc7a0$779656e0$@net> References: <1312079425.41372.YahooMailClassic@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <005801cc4ff5$8c47a870$a4d6f950$@net> <009801cc5185$69580c60$3c082520$@net> <00de01cc5250$5dc0a7b0$1941f710$@net> <00a201cc531c$97a20830$c6e61890$@net> <006101cc54aa$247ce480$6d76ad80$@net> <003401cc5572$5b554790$11ffd6b0$@net> <008301cc563b$2f512cd0$8df38670$@net> <007701cc5709$5a09dde0$0e1d99a0$@net> <008f01cc57cd$7c351eb0$749f5c10$@net> <002e01cc5a29$f3647db0$da2d7910$@net> <005a01cc5aea$cd1c68e0$67553aa0$@net> <003f01cc5bc0$34bf1c10$9e3d5430$@net> <004f01cc5c84$1e4b94d0$5ae2be70$@net> <006101cc5d4c$99dda840$cd98f8c0$@net> <004401cc5e16$be065800$3a130800$@net> <000901cc5ee0$45322060$cf966120$@net> <00a901cc5fb0$09a569a0$1cf03ce0$@net> <003f01cc6070$86f0e680$94d2b380$@net> <005001cc613e$29d17040$7d7450c0$@net> <008c01cc6206$d5955040$80bff0c0$@net> <001401cc6393$45213bd0$cf63b370$@net> <004501cc6461$c5dd9420$5198bc60$@net> <004f01cc6528$9febf500$dfc3df00$@net> <006001cc65f1$13281760$39784620$@net> <0 06501cc66be$56660e10$ 0 3322a30$@net> <008901cc6784$f0134340$d039c9c0$@net> <009301cc684e$27dcc7a0$779656e0$@net> Message-ID: <007801cc6915$d33aaf50$79b00df0$@net> Here are some times for Thursday 9/1/11 taken from the online geyser logs (www.geysertimes.org and www.geysers.net/mobile). Report from Kitt via Polly at 1930 is that there has been no F&M yet so we are at 6 days 4 hours and counting. Plume had one interval over an hour (64min) which is noteworthy since nearly all eruptions recently have been under an hour. Aurum 1636 ie wc Beehive 1413 wc Beehive's Indicator 1351 ie wc Daisy 0728 ns wc, 1015 ns wc, 1301 wc, 1540 wc, 1819 wc Dome 0814 ie wc, 0852 ie wc, 1906 ie wc, 2006 ie wc Fountain 1008 Grand 1219 ie wc Great Fountain 0805 ns Lion 0549 ie wc, 0659 ie wc, 0816 wc min, 0844 ie wc, 0956 ie wc, 1058 (?) ie wc, 1114 wc min, 1139 ie wc min Old Faithful 0638 wc, 0814 wc long, 0937 ie wc long, 1104 wc long, 1239 ie wc, 1416 ie wc, 1650 wc long, 1834 wc long, 2007 wc Old Tardy 1853 ie wc Plume 0653 ie wc, 0744 ie wc, 0839 wc, 0932 wc, 1028 wc, 1124 wc, 1223, 1318 wc, 1410 ie wc, 1606 ie wc, 1659 wc, 1849 wc, 1953 wc Sawmill 0934 ie wc, 1540 ie wc Graham Meech From billwarnock at wyellowstone.com Fri Sep 2 06:04:25 2011 From: billwarnock at wyellowstone.com (billwarnock at wyellowstone.com) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 06:04:25 -0700 Subject: [Geysers] Fan & Mortar overnight Message-ID: <20110902060425.8b0af5e9e9782380d98120880eb3a769.0e2798f800.wbe@email17.secureserver.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110902/5f8273f6/attachment.html> From meechg at verizon.net Fri Sep 2 19:39:31 2011 From: meechg at verizon.net (Graham Meech) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:39:31 -0400 Subject: [Geysers] Webcam and other times 9/2/2011 In-Reply-To: <007801cc6915$d33aaf50$79b00df0$@net> References: <1312079425.41372.YahooMailClassic@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <005801cc4ff5$8c47a870$a4d6f950$@net> <009801cc5185$69580c60$3c082520$@net> <00de01cc5250$5dc0a7b0$1941f710$@net> <00a201cc531c$97a20830$c6e61890$@net> <006101cc54aa$247ce480$6d76ad80$@net> <003401cc5572$5b554790$11ffd6b0$@net> <008301cc563b$2f512cd0$8df38670$@net> <007701cc5709$5a09dde0$0e1d99a0$@net> <008f01cc57cd$7c351eb0$749f5c10$@net> <002e01cc5a29$f3647db0$da2d7910$@net> <005a01cc5aea$cd1c68e0$67553aa0$@net> <003f01cc5bc0$34bf1c10$9e3d5430$@net> <004f01cc5c84$1e4b94d0$5ae2be70$@net> <006101cc5d4c$99dda840$cd98f8c0$@net> <004401cc5e16$be065800$3a130800$@net> <000901cc5ee0$45322060$cf966120$@net> <00a901cc5fb0$09a569a0$1cf03ce0$@net> <003f01cc6070$86f0e680$94d2b380$@net> <005001cc613e$29d17040$7d7450c0$@net> <008c01cc6206$d5955040$80bff0c0$@net> <001401cc6393$45213bd0$cf63b370$@net> <004501cc6461$c5dd9420$5198bc60$@net> <004f01cc6528$9febf500$dfc3df00$@net> <006001cc65f1$13281760$39784620$@net> <0 06501cc66be$56660e10$ 0 3322a30$@net> <008901cc6784$f0134340$d039c9c0$@net> <009301cc684e$27dcc7a0$779656e0$@net> <007801cc6915$d33aaf50$79b00df0$@net> Message-ID: <004801cc69e2$b5f1f480$21d5dd80$@net> Here are some times for Friday 9/2/11 taken from the online geyser logs (www.geysertimes.org and www.geysers.net/mobile). Beehive had not erupted by 2035 this evening. I will be retiring from posting because I will be at the better end of the webcam for a while. The online sites above provide up to date information so check them out and the android app. On geysertimes.org there is a logbook feature that allows you to page back and see prior days reports so you don't really need a daily post from me anyway. Have a great Labor Day, I know I will! Aurum 0652 (?) ie wc, 1724 wc Beehive 0646 wc Beehive's Indicator 0630 wc Castle 0932 ie wc maj Daisy 1022 ie wc, 1301 wc, 1759 ie wc, 2038 ns wc Depression 0656 (?) ie wc, 1812 (?) ie wc Fan and Mortar overnight 9/1-9/2 Fountain 0540 ie, 1155 Grand 0715 ie wc, 1816 (?) ie wc Great Fountain 0618 ns Little Cub 1625 ie wc, 1932 ie wc Old Faithful 0648 wc long, 0810 wc long, 0946 wc long, 1117 wc long, 1251 ie wc, 1426 wc, 1600 wc, 1737 ie wc, 1905 wc Plume 0807 wc, 1002 wc, 1057 ie wc, 1437 ie wc, 1531 ie wc, 1719 wc, 1903 wc, 1957 wc Sawmill 0743 ie wc, 1759 ie wc, 2007 ie wc West Triplet 1759 ie wc Graham Meech From jimscheir at aol.com Mon Sep 5 12:39:41 2011 From: jimscheir at aol.com (jimscheir at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar 9/5/2011 Message-ID: <8CE3A1AB0E13613-21AC-4EAEC@webmail-m056.sysops.aol.com> Fan and Mortar erupted at 1125 today. Details will be posted in a few days. Jim Scheirer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110905/5a7e4e56/attachment.html> From lstephens2006 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 6 16:46:25 2011 From: lstephens2006 at hotmail.com (Lynn Stephens) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:46:25 -0600 Subject: [Geysers] White Dome In-Reply-To: <1862692622.400632.1314189974654.JavaMail.root@sz0144a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <008c01cc6206$d5955040$80bff0c0$@net>, <1862692622.400632.1314189974654.JavaMail.root@sz0144a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Sorry that I didn't respond to this earlier, but I have been in Yellowstone and didn't seek out internet access for the past two weeks. For each of several years now I have published information about White Dome in one or two annual issues of The Sput. For example, here is some of what I published about White Dome in the October (I think; I"m still not home, so am not certain whether this appeared in the October or December) 2009 issue: "Descriptive statistics for White Dome intervals for 2007, 2008, and the second half of 2009 are shown in Table 6. (Intervals are for major to major. Minor eruptions where White Dome spurts water a few feet high for a few seconds are not included in the calculations.) The minimum interval for all time periods was 13 minutes. The maximum interval of 2h28m in 2007 was 21 minutes longer than the maximum interval of 2h07m in 2008 and 20 minutes longer than the maximum interval during the second half of the 2009 summer season. The ?average? interval has stayed basically the same across the three years. The median interval for all years was 29 minutes. The mean interval in 2007 was 34 minutes compared to the mean interval of 33 minutes in 2008. The mean interval went back to 34 minutes during the second half of the summer 2009 season. Table 6: White Dome Intervals, 2007, 2008 and Second Half of 2009 Season 2007 2008 7/5/09 to 9/13/09 Minimum 13 13m 13m Mean 34m 33m 34m Median 29m 29m 29m Maximum 2h28m 2h07m 2h08m Count 392 348 189 As shown in Figure 1, White Dome?s intervals are skewed toward shorter intervals, with a mode of 32 intervals in the 16-20 and 21?25 minute categories. Distribution of the intervals in all three time periods was comparable. In 2007 61% of the intervals were between 16 and 35 minutes; in 2008 the categories 16 to 35 minutes contained 60% of the intervals; and in the second half of the summer of 2009 63% of the intervals were between 16 and 25 minutes. Seventy-one percent of the intervals were 35 minutes of less during the second half of the summer of 2009, and 81% were 45 minutes of less. That wasn?t much consolation to the visitors who happened to wait during the 11% of intervals that were greater than 1 hour." I won't include Figure 1 here. But here is one of the White Dome tables/figures from the report I prepared for my summer 2009 observations: Table 37: Proportion of White Dome Geyser Intervals in Selected Categories Year 16 ? 35 minutes 16 ? 45 minutes More than an hour 2005 67.33% 80.44% 6.22% 2006 61.46% 73.02% 8.78% 2007 60.98% 74.88% 8.78% 2008 59.53% 70.00% 11.86% 2009 63.69% 74.69% 8.71% As Steve noted, "long" intervals may be underrepresented because, although some of my observations were collected on individual sits of many hours, other observations were collected when I might have been at Great Fountain for 4-6 hours. Another reason long intervals may be underrepesented is that people may not not reported the long intervals because they may have been afraid they had missed a White Dme eruption. I don't have data for 2010 because I was only in the park for one week. I hope to get the results of my two trips (total 5 weeks) in 2011 written up in time for the October, 2011 issue of The Sput. Lynn Stephnes Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:46:14 +0000 From: sgryc at comcast.net To: geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu Subject: [Geysers] White Dome Dear All, In June I managed a twelve-hour bun-busting White Dome sit and recorded interesting data which would indicate that White Dome has both normal and long intervals (i.e. there is a big gap between the length of the normal intervals and the longer intervals). Twelve continuous observation still isn't a very large sample (19 eruptions), so if anyone else has closed intervals for White Dome this summer I would appreciate having your data. Maybe my observations plus yours might add up to a short Sput article. There may be a problem in that most geyser gazers, expecting an interval around thirty minutes, would get discouraged after 45 minutes or an hour and just give up on White Dome and leave before the long interval of around 80 minutes has elapsed. So long intervals might be under-represented in a random sample recorded by gazers. Long intervals seem to be less common than normal intervals, but they are not rare as per my experience. Thanks, Steve Gryc _______________________________________________ Geysers mailing list Geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lemon Spring has gotten progressively hotter over the summer, but I never saw it below overflow. Gemini was active one afternoon. All other times I drove by the area surrounding the left (north) vent was full of water and the right vent was merrily bubbling away. Pink Cone intervals about 22 to 26 hours. Durations do not appear to have increased. I watched a new geyser in Tangled Creek over the two week period, which I called "Spire" because it looks like a slightly larger Pyramid or Uncertain. Durations were 5-7 minutes; intervals 35-55 minutes. I asked Bill Lewis and Sam Holbrook and both of them indicated they had never seen anything like it while they were stationed in the Lower Basin in the 60's and 70's and did mapping in the Tangled Creek Area. Rocco Paperiello said it seems possible it is in the vicinity of a feature Sam called "Tonsil Geyser" on his map of the Tangled Creek vents, but the description of activity does not match anything Sam observed. The weather was great during my two week stay, which was nice since I was camped at Madison Campground. This will be one of the few times I have left Yellowstone in September without having seen snow, but then again, I saw plenty of snow on my May/June trip. I was worried I might also have to leave without hearing an elk bugle. (The weather has been so warm that most of the elk and bison are still in the"high" country--nice for driving without bison jams.) However, my going away present this morning while I was waiting for the first minor after the end of a Till major was the sound of an elk bugling. Lynn Stephens -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110906/a9baf7f4/attachment.html> From schwarzmb at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 19:37:16 2011 From: schwarzmb at gmail.com (Mary Beth Schwarz) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:37:16 -0500 Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar 5 September 2011 (Barwin) Message-ID: These details are from the 5 Sept. 2011 Fan & Mortar: 1010 River on 1015 River off...Pause Main Vent was putting out heavy steam until first water seen by me at 1024 (others saw spits that I could not confirm) 1031 River on 1040 River off...Pause #2 MV continued to splash until 1051 1049 River on 1058 River off...Pause #3 1101 River on 1108 Gold on Water levels varied from good to not so good, until... 1114 Angle on And then it was GAME ON! As soon as Angle turned on, High and Gold responded with water levels that improved with each passing minute. 1118 - Ten minutes into Gold and water levels were Excellent! 1119 - A LOCK is declared and many gazers and visitors begin to stow possessions and waterproof themselves while staking out optimal viewing positions 1125 - Nice surge from Upper Mortar, but it realized it would be a break in protocol to initiate an eruption during a Fan LOCK and quickly recalled its water and withdrew to wait its turn. Moments later... 1125 FAN and MORTAR East and Main Vents started the eruption at virtually the same time. Upper and Lower Mortar started only a few seconds later. In looking at the puddles left by Main and East, I would not be surprised if water was landing in Norris Pool. 1140 end of first burst of the eruption of the Fan vents. Sorry, I did not record the end of the water for Upper and Lower Mortar. 1143-1145 Restart 1 1147-1150 Restart 2 1155-1157 Restart 3 1200 Powerful steam from East, no water Duration = 32 minutes A blue sky eruption - spectacular! A pre-departure eruption for many - satisfying. A fabulous eruption shared with good friends - priceless! Respectfully submitted by Cynthia Barwin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110906/d0a17381/attachment.html> From caros at xmission.com Wed Sep 7 11:23:54 2011 From: caros at xmission.com (Karen Anne Webb) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:23:54 -0600 Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar 5 September 2011 (Barwin) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E67B6BA.1080702@xmission.com> GACK. *Knew* this would happen when it went overnight the night before we would have left to come up for Labor Day but then calculated when it would *really* go was when we had already hit the road to come home (ie, we opted to stay home and have some couple time while Zayne went to Flaming Gorge with friends). Stuck between saying "Curse you, F&M!" and thanking Cynthia for a report so detailed and descriptive I could at least see it all in my head. What a great send-off for the rest of you! See everyone next summer! (And I'd still like to see statistics on how frequently the big, less predictable geysers go on holidays of all sorts. Sometimes it's like they *know*...) Karen Webb On 9/6/2011 8:37 PM, Mary Beth Schwarz wrote: > > > > > > > > These details are from the 5 Sept. 2011 Fan & Mortar: > > 1010 River on > > 1015 River off...Pause > > Main Vent was putting out heavy steam until first water seen by > me at 1024 (others saw spits that I could not confirm) > > 1031 River on > > 1040 River off...Pause #2 > > MV continued to splash until 1051 > > 1049 River on > > 1058 River off...Pause #3 > > 1101 River on > > 1108 Gold on > > Water levels varied from good to not so good, until... > > 1114 Angle on > > And then it was GAME ON! As soon as Angle turned on, High and > Gold responded with water levels that improved with each passing minute. > > 1118 - Ten minutes into Gold and water levels were Excellent! > > 1119 - A LOCK is declared and many gazers and visitors begin to > stow possessions and waterproof themselves while staking out optimal > viewing positions > > 1125 - Nice surge from Upper Mortar, but it realized it would be > a break in protocol to initiate an eruption during a Fan LOCK and > quickly recalled its water and withdrew to wait its turn. Moments > later... > > 1125 FAN and MORTAR East and Main Vents started the eruption > at virtually the same time. > Upper and Lower Mortar started only a few seconds later. In looking > at the puddles left by Main and East, I would not be surprised if > water was landing in Norris Pool. > > 1140 end of first burst of the eruption of the Fan vents. > Sorry, I did not record the end of the water for Upper and Lower Mortar. > > 1143-1145 Restart 1 > > 1147-1150 Restart 2 > > 1155-1157 Restart 3 > > 1200 Powerful steam from East, no water > > Duration = 32 minutes > > A blue sky eruption - spectacular! > > A pre-departure eruption for many - satisfying. > > A fabulous eruption shared with good friends - priceless! > > Respectfully submitted by Cynthia Barwin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Geysers mailing list > Geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <#/attachments/20110908/fccafd89/attachment.html> From lstephens2006 at hotmail.com Thu Sep 8 18:23:03 2011 From: lstephens2006 at hotmail.com (Lynn Stephens) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:23:03 -0600 Subject: [Geysers] More About White Dome--2005-2009 In-Reply-To: References: <008c01cc6206$d5955040$80bff0c0$@net>, <1862692622.400632.1314189974654.JavaMail.root@sz0144a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>, Message-ID: I'm still catching up from my last trip and will be leaving again tomorrow for a few days, but did manage to skim The Sput last night and noted that Steve Gryc reported seeing no intervals of White Dome in the 40, 50, 60 or 70 minute runage during his 12-hour sit on White Dome. From 2005 through 2009, reported intervals in these ranges were ABOUT 18-20% of the total intervals, with ABOUT half of these in the 41-50 minute category. As Steve said, "long" intervals are probably underrepresented since many people are not likely to observe/report "long" intervals. (Here's some data from 2005 through 2009 from my 2009 Report. I have modified the original table to show 10 minute categories and to include the total number of observations. Total does not equal 100% in all years due to rounding.) Distribution of White Dome Geyser?s Intervals in 10-Minute Categories Interval 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 < = 20 minutes 27.1% 27.6% 24.9% 24.2% 23.0% 21 - 30 31.8% 29.6% 31.7% 30.2% 33.2% 31 - 40 22.0% 18.0% 17.8% 18.8% 21.2% 41 ? 50 8.5% 10.1% 10.7% 8.4% 9.1% 51 ? 60 4.5% 6.0% 6.1% 6.5% 4.8% 61 ? 70 2.7% 3.2% 3.7% 5.8% 3.3% 71 ? 80 1.6% 2.6% 2.0% 2.3% 1.5% > 80 min 2.0% 3.0% 3.2% 3.7% 3.9% Count 450 476 410 430 482 Lynn Stephens -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110908/30f9d3c0/attachment-0001.html> From stepheneide at cableone.net Sat Sep 10 22:28:03 2011 From: stepheneide at cableone.net (Stephen Eide) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:28:03 -0600 Subject: [Geysers] Black Pool Eruption??? In-Reply-To: <4E692A80.6070309@snowmoon.us> References: <4E692A80.6070309@snowmoon.us> Message-ID: Hello All, I did visit West Thumb last week and King was not boiling then. Not much was active but Surging Spring was surging. I'm not at home and my log book is there so I can't give the interval. It was just intermittant overflowing, not erupting. The signs for Lakeshore Spring (Not Lakeshore Geyser) were washed into the spring during the period of high water. For a while Lakeshore Spring was part of Yellowstone Lake. They have not been taken out yet. Stephen Eide On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Janet White | SnowMoon, LLC < janet at snowmoon.us> wrote: > Recently posted on Twitter by RangerBri: > Rangerbri Sabrina Diaz > Potential Black Pool Eruption: this AM rangers found several features > empty of H20 & standing water on the boardwalk at edge of Black pool! > > Rangerbri Sabrina Diaz > King Geyser is boiling up a storm in West Thumb Geyser Basin. I predict > an eruption any day now! > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Geysers mailing list > Geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110910/43067eb2/attachment.html> From cbeverly777 at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 16:36:13 2011 From: cbeverly777 at gmail.com (carol beverly) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:36:13 -0700 Subject: [Geysers] Giantess! Message-ID: Giantess Geyser, 1532, after a 128 day 16 hour interval cb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110913/b571ba00/attachment.html> From tddandngd at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 21:20:27 2011 From: tddandngd at gmail.com (Genean Dunn) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:20:27 -0700 Subject: [Geysers] Giantess! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, If anyone has good photos of this Giantess, please send them for publication in the next Sput. We would love to have new photos to share with our readers. Email to either tddandngd at gmail.com or tddatlasvegas at gmail.com com or snail mail to Tom and Genean Dunn 6965 El Camino Real Suite 105 #463 Carlsbad, CA 92009 Please make sure the photos are 300 dpi ( usually at least 2 to 3 MB in size as a jpg). Thanks Tom and Genean Dunn On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:36 PM, carol beverly wrote: > Giantess Geyser, 1532, after a 128 day 16 hour interval > cb > > _______________________________________________ > Geysers mailing list > Geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110913/f808f350/attachment.html> From geyserhound at hotmail.com Wed Sep 14 10:01:05 2011 From: geyserhound at hotmail.com (Andrew Hafner) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:01:05 -0400 Subject: [Geysers] 9/11 geyser memory Message-ID: (MODERATOR: please use discretion. If you feel this is inappopriate, please don't post.) (TOM AND GENEAN: You may include this in the October issue of the Sput, if you feel it is appropriate.) My memory of 9/11 is: The summer of 2001 was my second at Old Faithful, where I worked as a porter at the Inn. I had this day off from work, and as I did on most such days that summer, I was going to spend it in the geyser basins. It was a clear, bright, quiet and calm morning in Yellowstone, much like it probably was in New York that fateful day. I headed down to "Lower Ham's," a favorite hangout of geyser gazers, for breakfast. The food counter was quiet when I came in, so I found a table, sat down, and placed an order. A short while later, fellow gazer Lotus Baker saw me and asked if she could join me for breakfast. After we exchanged pleasantries, Lotus then proceeded to tell me that two jetliners had struck the World Trade Center, another had struck the Pentagon, and still another was rumored to have hit the Capitol. Incredulous and dumbstruck, I pressed her for more information, but she knew nothing beyond the brief report she had heard and just passed along to me. After that, conversation at the breakfast table, about the usual things such as the day's predicted geyser activity, wasn't so easy. Keep in mind that this was around 0830 (Mountain time), after the twin towers had collapsed. Let's roll forward a few hours, to around noontime or shortly before or thereafter. Myself, along with several other geyser gazers, were up on Geyser Hill. Beehive's Indicator had started, and we were stopping passing visitors and giving them the usual "you might as well stick around, something cool is about to happen, we're going to have a major geyser here in the next twenty minutes" spiel. Eventually, about 50 or so people were gathered on the front side of Geyser Hill. Well, Beehive did its thing. Now, there had been almost no breeze that morning, so it became obvious to all that this was going to be one of those tall, straight-as-a-poker eruptions of Beehive, you know, the kind that make viewers on the Geyser Hill side crane their necks, the ones that tower over the whole south end of the Upper Basin. What I remember best is that while this eruption was in progress, no one on Geyser Hill said a WORD. Usually, when Beehive's eruption starts, it is met with great enthusiasm from visitors: "Holy mackerel!" "What on Earth!?" "This is way better than Old Faithful!" "Way cool!"....you get the picture. But not this time. All I remember hearing was the heavy water hitting the sinter, with the terrific noise of falling rain, when Beehive's eruption bega, and the jet-engine roar after the water column had reached maximun height. Everyone on the boardwalk was quiet and solemn. I think that many of these people were aware of what had taken place that morning, more than half a continent away. There wasn't even any applause when the eruption concluded, like there so often is. The crowd then dispersed quietly. I can remember being in something of a mental fog that day. It wasn't wasn't one of my more focused days of geyser gazing. More than anything else, I felt a sense of sadness over what had happened, and also a sense of anger that something like this could have taken place. The general mindframe around the whole Old Faithful area, among visitors and employees alike, seemed detached and subdued as well. Later that day, the hotel company commandeered an employee's satellite dish, and set up a TV set in the Bear Pit cocktail lounge at the Inn, and kept it there for the next several days. I did not once put foot in that room while it was there. I'm probably better off for not having seen any footage. There aren't many people who can claim that they were out watching geysers on that fateful day, but I was one of them. There are no doubt many others who were in Yellowstone on 9/11, and have more vivid or more detailed memories of what transpired that morning. This is simply how I choose to remember it. Andrew Hafner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110914/f44cac8c/attachment.html> From vwmtlaw at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 10:31:39 2011 From: vwmtlaw at gmail.com (Victoria Weaver) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:31:39 -0600 Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar, September 13, 2011 Message-ID: Fan and Mortar erupted Tuesday, September 13, 2011 at 2339. Graham Meech and Jake Young observed the eruption and will provide additional information. Victoria Weaver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110914/12b6f964/attachment.html> From fanandmortar at hotmail.com Wed Sep 14 11:12:46 2011 From: fanandmortar at hotmail.com (Tara Cross) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:12:46 -0600 Subject: [Geysers] Fan & Mortar details, 9/9/11 Message-ID: My apologies for not posting sooner; I did not have much internet access while I was in Yellowstone. Fan & Mortar erupted at 0039 on September 9, 2011. Here are the details. Cynthia Barwin called an event cycle shortly before sunset. After that, F&M had normal cycles for about 3 hours. Then, during a quiet period, Main Vent began to roar gently. The events progressed as follows: September 8 ~2330 Main Vent roaring gently 2338 River on, Main Vent continues to roar 2347 River off, River pause 2347 Main Vent splash, there may have been water before this but I couldn't see well enough 2351 River on, Main Vent continued to splash September 9 0000 River off, double River pause, more Main Vent splashing 0007 River on 0023 Gold on 0028 Angle on, water levels look good 0033 Lock 0039 FAN AND MORTAR The eruption was moonlit, though we did use flashlights some of the time. We saw a flashlight approaching during the lock and thought maybe some gazers had decided to come down, but it was two visitors. Once the eruption started they came and watched for a minute or two, but then left when their friends called them to tell them that Grand was erupting. The duration was 33 minutes. --Tara Cross fanandmortar at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110914/70061f88/attachment.html> From lstephens2006 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 14 22:41:39 2011 From: lstephens2006 at hotmail.com (Lynn Stephens) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:41:39 -0600 Subject: [Geysers] 9/11 geyser memory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: (MODERATOR: please use discretion. If you feel this is inappopriate, please don't post.) (TOM AND GENEAN: You may include this in the October issue of the Sput, if you feel it is appropriate.) I was also in Yellowstone on 9/11/2001. My logbook shows that I saw an eruption of White Dome at 09:06. The next note in my logbook is "full security alert" and a telephone number. I was at Great Fountain when I heard over the scanner that the Park had been placed on top level security alert, but I didn't hear a reason for the alert. The next note in my logbook is "elk bugling"--one of the traditional sounds of fall. Then I began to hear rumors from visitors and tour guides about airplanes and the Twin Towers. The first rumors I heard mentioned possible death tolls of 50,000 people, so I had difficulty believing the rumors. As Andrew noted, it was a sunny day with clear blue sky and warm temperatures, so a tragedy of that magnitude was simply unimaginable. I waited until Great Fountain had finished its eruption so I could post the next prediction, then drove to the Lower Ham's parking lot, arriving about 11 am. A tour guide from Jackson was sitting in the parking lot listening to the radio in his vehicle and confirmed for me that airplanes had hit the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. I stayed in the parking lot, trying to glean additional information about the terrorist attacks until I walked to the overlook to watch the 12:12 eruption of Beehive. I also avoided the television in the Bear Pit. However, I did see some footage on the computer monitor when I went into the Old Faithful Visitor Center that evening to transcribe logbooks, do the Old Faithful predictions until dark, and answer visitor questions using the "ice cream" window. Many of the questions I got that evening related to airplane flights--would theirs home depart as scheduled, or would it be cancelled. And, if flights were being cancelled, how long would the cancellations last. I felt quite ineffectual that evening since I simply did not have answers for people. Over the next few days I met several individuals who were making unscheduled trips to Yellowstone. In some cases their flights had been cancelled so they had rented cars to travel to their destinations and decided to visit Yellowstone on their way. In other cases cancellation of their flights had left them with extra "vacation" days so they had chosen to spend those days in Yellowstone. As a side note--My son, Kirk, was married on 9/11/1999. Kirk and Jen had originally chosen a different date for the wedding, but couldn't get both the church and hotel where they wanted to hold the reception on that date. When the date was changed to September 11, Kirk said he'd have no problem remembering the date of their anniversary since it was 9-1-1. After 9/11/2001, he had another reason for not forgetting the date. They had planned a trip to Paris for their second anniversary, but the trip was cancelled due to the attacks. I stayed in Yellowstone until September 23, so was isolated from much of the trauma associated with 9/11. Lynn Stephens From: geyserhound at hotmail.com To: geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:01:05 -0400 Subject: [Geysers] 9/11 geyser memory (MODERATOR: please use discretion. If you feel this is inappopriate, please don't post.) (TOM AND GENEAN: You may include this in the October issue of the Sput, if you feel it is appropriate.) My memory of 9/11 is: The summer of 2001 was my second at Old Faithful, where I worked as a porter at the Inn. I had this day off from work, and as I did on most such days that summer, I was going to spend it in the geyser basins. It was a clear, bright, quiet and calm morning in Yellowstone, much like it probably was in New York that fateful day. I headed down to "Lower Ham's," a favorite hangout of geyser gazers, for breakfast. The food counter was quiet when I came in, so I found a table, sat down, and placed an order. A short while later, fellow gazer Lotus Baker saw me and asked if she could join me for breakfast. After we exchanged pleasantries, Lotus then proceeded to tell me that two jetliners had struck the World Trade Center, another had struck the Pentagon, and still another was rumored to have hit the Capitol. Incredulous and dumbstruck, I pressed her for more information, but she knew nothing beyond the brief report she had heard and just passed along to me. After that, conversation at the breakfast table, about the usual things such as the day's predicted geyser activity, wasn't so easy. Keep in mind that this was around 0830 (Mountain time), after the twin towers had collapsed. Let's roll forward a few hours, to around noontime or shortly before or thereafter. Myself, along with several other geyser gazers, were up on Geyser Hill. Beehive's Indicator had started, and we were stopping passing visitors and giving them the usual "you might as well stick around, something cool is about to happen, we're going to have a major geyser here in the next twenty minutes" spiel. Eventually, about 50 or so people were gathered on the front side of Geyser Hill. Well, Beehive did its thing. Now, there had been almost no breeze that morning, so it became obvious to all that this was going to be one of those tall, straight-as-a-poker eruptions of Beehive, you know, the kind that make viewers on the Geyser Hill side crane their necks, the ones that tower over the whole south end of the Upper Basin. What I remember best is that while this eruption was in progress, no one on Geyser Hill said a WORD. Usually, when Beehive's eruption starts, it is met with great enthusiasm from visitors: "Holy mackerel!" "What on Earth!?" "This is way better than Old Faithful!" "Way cool!"....you get the picture. But not this time. All I remember hearing was the heavy water hitting the sinter, with the terrific noise of falling rain, when Beehive's eruption bega, and the jet-engine roar after the water column had reached maximun height. Everyone on the boardwalk was quiet and solemn. I think that many of these people were aware of what had taken place that morning, more than half a continent away. There wasn't even any applause when the eruption concluded, like there so often is. The crowd then dispersed quietly. I can remember being in something of a mental fog that day. It wasn't wasn't one of my more focused days of geyser gazing. More than anything else, I felt a sense of sadness over what had happened, and also a sense of anger that something like this could have taken place. The general mindframe around the whole Old Faithful area, among visitors and employees alike, seemed detached and subdued as well. Later that day, the hotel company commandeered an employee's satellite dish, and set up a TV set in the Bear Pit cocktail lounge at the Inn, and kept it there for the next several days. I did not once put foot in that room while it was there. I'm probably better off for not having seen any footage. There aren't many people who can claim that they were out watching geysers on that fateful day, but I was one of them. There are no doubt many others who were in Yellowstone on 9/11, and have more vivid or more detailed memories of what transpired that morning. This is simply how I choose to remember it. Andrew Hafner _______________________________________________ Geysers mailing list Geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110914/f71c6b9e/attachment.html> From dmonteit at comcast.net Thu Sep 15 21:25:07 2011 From: dmonteit at comcast.net (David Monteith) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:25:07 -0700 Subject: [Geysers] North Goggles Major Message-ID: <1316147107.18690.7.camel@dhcppc0> All: North Goggles Major September 15 at 1933. I've attached a still cam image. The link is to the video. Dave -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <#/attachments/20110917/d206f3cd/attachment.html> From meechg at verizon.net Wed Sep 21 15:17:04 2011 From: meechg at verizon.net (Graham Meech) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:17:04 -0400 Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar 13 and 19 September 2011 Message-ID: <005f01cc78ac$31de44e0$959acea0$@net> You already heard that Fan and Mortar erupted on the 13th and I have details below. Jake Young also reported another eruption seen by Dave Leeking at 1921ie on the 19th. Having erupted at 0039 on the 9th, 24 hour a day F&M watch started on the 11th. There were events as follows: 9/11 1044, 1618, 1734 9/12 0031, 0436, 1345, 2150 9/13 1300 then observations were limited once Giantess started at 1332. I went down later after dark and events proceeded as follows: 2250 Main Vent splashing in progress 2300 River on with Main still splashing River may have paused but it was hard to tell with the steam and wind direction in the dark 2316 River on strong 2318 Gold on 2327 Angle ie and water levels looked good 2335 LOCK Like in the previous two eruptions Upper Mortar splashed up and died down during the lock 2339 FAN AND MORTAR - Upper Mortar started the eruption followed by Main and East together, duration 35 minutes. Upper Mortar was strong, erupting continuously water and steam for 7 minutes before going into the cyclic steam bursts. F&M watch started up again on the 16th with an event at 1641 but no overnight observations that night due to rain. On 9/17 the first events seen went like this: 0614 Main Vent splashing in progress 0618 River on with Main vent still splashing 0625 River off - a pause and Main still splashing 0633 River on and Main still splashing 0643 Gold on 0644 Angle on 0655 LOCK - Yeah No splashes from Upper Mortar this time and no F&M 0705 UNLOCK - Booo 0719 River off The next event was not until 1849 with Main vent splashing and 3 River pauses. No overnight watch again on the 17th and the next event observed was at 0850 on the 18th just before I departed. Here is the list of the last 21 reported eruptions and intervals from www.geysertimes.org . The ones with a question mark are where we are not certain of the actual eruption times. 19 Sep 2011 @ 1921 ie 5days 19h 42m 13 Sep 2011 @ 2339 4days 23h 0m 09 Sep 2011 @ 0039 3days 13h 14m 05 Sep 2011 @ 1125 3days 11h 25m 02 Sep 2011 @ 0000 (?) 6days 8h 17m 26 Aug 2011 @ 1543 3days 5h 23m 23 Aug 2011 @ 1020 3days 6h 20m 20 Aug 2011 @ 0400 (?) 2days 15h 1m 17 Aug 2011 @ 1259 4days 12h 59m 13 Aug 2011 @ 0000 (?) 3days 18h 49m 09 Aug 2011 @ 0511 4days 8h 28m 04 Aug 2011 @ 2043 3days 21h 51m 31 Jul 2011 @ 2252 E 4days 22h 51m 27 Jul 2011 @ 0001 2days 23h 27m 24 Jul 2011 @ 0034 4days 10h 46m 19 Jul 2011 @ 1348 3days 13h 2m 16 Jul 2011 @ 0046 ie 4days 17h 31m 11 Jul 2011 @ 0715 5days 8h 39m 05 Jul 2011 @ 2236 E 5days 22h 36m 30 Jun 2011 @ 0000 (?) 11days 12h 0m 18 Jun 2011 @ 1200 (?) 46days 9h 0m Go F&M! Graham Meech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Karen Webb On 9/23/2011 3:37 PM, Graham Meech wrote: > > Jake Young reported Fan and Mortar erupted overnight last night 22-23 > September between 2010 and 0710. > > The darkness sensor is still active! > > Graham Meech > > > > _______________________________________________ > Geysers mailing list > Geysers at lists.wallawalla.edu > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110923/51a870ec/attachment.html> From meechg at verizon.net Fri Sep 23 16:30:29 2011 From: meechg at verizon.net (Graham Meech) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:30:29 -0400 Subject: [Geysers] Norris Geyser Report Message-ID: <004b01cc7a48$c807cc50$581764f0$@net> I visited Norris on September 6th and 15th. Nice to see Vixen active and just before I left I got to see Fireball and Arsenic and a 2 burst Constant - the first of those reported for a while. 9/6/2011 6 Vixen majors, durations 2m 55s to 4m 5s, intervals 45-47m. Pearl was quiet and overflowing 5 Constant single eruptions, intervals 21 - 43m 9/15/2011 6 Vixen eruptions barely getting any overflow, durations ~1m - 2.5m, intervals 14-27m Pearl was erupting to about 1' and overflowing 6 constant eruptions (4 single and 1 double), intervals 21 - 24m with the second burst 2 minutes later Fireball duration > 56m Arsenic started 4m after Fireball, duration 21m I did hear other reports about Vixen being active while I was in the park including majors of 7 minutes or more. Graham Meech -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Last splash at 1546. 1551 Gold on. 1555 Angle on. 1602 Lock called. 1607 Fan and Mortar started with East vent. 1622 First pause. 1624 Restart. 1639 Last water. d = 32 min. It was a strong eruption with one burst reaching the far side of the depression next to Norris Pool. Also here are a couple of stories from my wait for Beehive Indicator a few days ago. 1. A girl about 20 was escorting friends near Beehive and explained that you could not swim in the Firehole River in the area because the river was much too hot. 2. A few minutes later a father came by with his son and on seeing steam coming out of Beehive told the son "Look how hot it is. It is so hot that at night you can see it glow red." Jim Scheirer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was planning on asking a ranger(s) at the help desk at Old faithful prior to getting on trail, but thought I would ask Cheers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110929/5448c6c9/attachment.html> From TSBryan at aol.com Fri Sep 30 07:38:03 2011 From: TSBryan at aol.com (TSBryan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar 9/28/2011 Message-ID: <270b3.54654f85.3bb72e4a@aol.com> That's sort of like the man who, a few years ago, told his family that Plume was so hot that the lava was still glowing. He was, of course, referring to the cyanobacteria. Scott In a message dated 9/30/2011 4:47:07 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, jimscheir at aol.com writes: 2. A few minutes later a father came by with his son and on seeing steam coming out of Beehive told the son "Look how hot it is. It is so hot that at night you can see it glow red." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110930/11450dfb/attachment.html> From jakefrisbee at yahoo.com Fri Sep 30 10:54:07 2011 From: jakefrisbee at yahoo.com (Jacob Young) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Geysers] Fan & Mortar - Report from the Other Side (Young) Message-ID: <1317405247.35731.YahooMailNeo@web114704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I had a great trip to Yellowstone in September.? I got to see Giantess erupt for the first time along with Tilt's Baby, Churn and Vault (4 new (to me) UGB geysers in one day!).? Despite my nearly-best efforts, a Fan and Mortar eruption eluded me.? Perhaps it was the sleep deprivation or spending enough time alone with the "Pile of Rocks," but somehow I ended up with this report from Tuesday, Sep 27, 2011 From Fan & Mortar, Sep 27, 2011: ~2030? *Yawn*? Ahhh, I see the sun has gone down.? It feels good to be waking up after running around all day.? I feel like I accomplished nothing all day!? I had so much to do that I was just all over the place, but that nap has really made me focused and refreshed! 2033 My bench-sitting friends were gone, but here comes someone new!? Oh, it's Jake!? He likes to spend time with me at night.? He seems really interested in what I have to say!? I'm so glad he's here! 2035 Jake's getting something out of his backpack.? Oh no, I HATE this part.... 2036 Do you REALLY have to shine that thing in my eyes?? C'mon, I'm just waking up and it's really annoying! 2040 Seriously, I'm getting angry! 2044 STOP IT!? Ahhh, finally you turned turned that thing off.? Oh, and now you're getting on the radio to talk to your friends.? That's kind of rude since I'm right here.? Oh, right, you're trying to get more people to come here to see me.? Thanks! 2049 That yelling tired me out for a while, but I'm back. 2054 Do you feel a cold draft coming from off the river?? Excuse me for a moment while I go close the window. 2056 Ahhh, much better don't you think?? I'm starting to feel really powerful now, but I can still talk to you without feeling so cold. 2057 It's fun to wave at you with my right foot, too!? Have you noticed?? I really enjoy waving then stopping for a few seconds and give a big shout.? I feel so strong! 2105 WOW, is it ever hot in here!? I better go open that back window. 2106 Hey!? Where are you going?? Why are you walking down to the bridge?? To look at my back side!? That's very embarrassing.? I already told you that I opened the back window to let the cool air in!? OK, you're coming back now...just don't leave me!? I'm feeling quite good now.? Yelling makes me feel great and relaxed. 2107 So much energy now!? I've got to let it out!? I'm going to go take a view of the river then come out up high to say? 'Hi' again. 2113 The view from the river is nice, but it's even better from up here!? I've got two place to take in the view from up here.? How are you doing Jake?? You seem tense and excited.? Oh yeah, talk to your friends again...but where are they?? I'm just getting started! 2116 See, I can wave my left hand up here too!? How about we play peek-a-boo for awhile...that'll be fun! 2126 OK, enough peek-a-boo.? I'm really ready to take in the view.? Wow, it looks amazing from up here.? I should go higher.? WOW!? Look at that!? I can see more and more the higher I climb. 2130 Hi, Jake!? Look at me!? I'm getting up to about as tall as you are.? There's no stopping me now.? Ha ha, yes, dance Jake, DANCE!!? We'll dance together!? It's been a while since I had so much fun!!! 2131 WAIT!? WHERE ARE YOU GOING?????!?? Why are you packing up all your things?? Where are you going??? You're leaving, no, you're RUNNING across the bridge!!!? Why?!? Don't leave me!? It gets so lonely out here.? I was having so much fun I could explode, but, you leave me NOW?? I...I, I don't know what to say anymore. 2132 *Sob* *sniffle* *sniffle* 2133 *Sniffle* OH! You're back.? You went off to change your clothes??? Are you trying to impress me?? Well, I didn't think you were coming back.? It doesn't matter.? It's over.? You hurt me, Jake, and I just don't feel like having fun anymore.? I'm sorry it's come to this. 2144 I'm going to the basement to drink.? Drink my sorrows away.? See you in a couple days, if you're lucky... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110930/f0de09f4/attachment.html> From jimscheir at aol.com Fri Sep 30 18:11:12 2011 From: jimscheir at aol.com (jimscheir at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 21:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar 9/28/2011 In-Reply-To: <8CE4D1DF5CB14B5-2100-13989@webmail-m155.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE4D1DF5CB14B5-2100-13989@webmail-m155.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CE4DEE2502164B-2160-1D73B@angweb-usm005.sysops.aol.com> OOPS. The eruption was on 9/29 not 9/28. Somehow I lost a day. I guess that is to be expected after spending 4.5 months in Yellowstone. It is another sign that it is time for me to leave soon. Jim Scheirer -----Original Message----- From: jimscheir To: Geysers Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 7:47 am Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar 9/28/2011 After about a 6.5 day interval Fan and Mortar erupted today. There were no event cycles today until 1458 First splash in Main. 1519 River on with splashing continuing. 1522 River off for River vent pause. Splashing continued. 1543 River on. Last splash at 1546. 1551 Gold on. 1555 Angle on. 1602 Lock called. 1607 Fan and Mortar started with East vent. 1622 First pause. 1624 Restart. 1639 Last water. d = 32 min. It was a strong eruption with one burst reaching the far side of the depression next to Norris Pool. Also here are a couple of stories from my wait for Beehive Indicator a few days ago. 1. A girl about 20 was escorting friends near Beehive and explained that you could not swim in the Firehole River in the area because the river was much too hot. 2. A few minutes later a father came by with his son and on seeing steam coming out of Beehive told the son "Look how hot it is. It is so hot that at night you can see it glow red." Jim Scheirer _______________________________________________ eysers mailing list eysers at lists.wallawalla.edu ttps://lists.wallawalla.edu/mailman/listinfo/geysers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110930/e5aa879f/attachment.html> From kreeves5 at cox.net Fri Sep 30 22:57:37 2011 From: kreeves5 at cox.net (Ken Reeves) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:57:37 -0700 Subject: [Geysers] Fan and Mortar 9/28/2011 In-Reply-To: <8CE4D1DF5CB14B5-2100-13989@webmail-m155.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE4D1DF5CB14B5-2100-13989@webmail-m155.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4E86ABD1.2040408@cox.net> Also here are a couple of stories from my wait for Beehive Indicator a few days ago. > 1. A girl about 20 was escorting friends near Beehive and explained > that you could not swim in the Firehole River in the area because the > river was much too hot. > My guess on this is it was implied from the book "Yellowstone Trivia" by Janet Spencer: (question about the Firehole river) "By the time it reaches Firehole Falls below Lower Geyser Basin - a distance of about 12 miles as the crow flies - what is the river's water temperature?" (answer) "110 degrees F" At least for me, 110 degrees F would be way to hot to swim. I myself have never swam in the Firehole river, but I have seen many swimming below Firehole Cascades (well above Firehole Falls), and I have placed my hand in the water there. It sure felt much less than 110 degrees F. Ken Reeves -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <#/attachments/20110930/d02777ec/attachment.html>