Referring to Grover's picture at Morning Glory -- it's nothing we haven't seen before. It's commonly called the alpha male position when it's done in the monkey cage. Regarding the taking of souvenirs and other abuse at WT, were those asians who did not speak English? Udo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </geyser-list/attachments/20070731/7f761266/attachment.html>