Also on the North Function, doesn't Grotto usually respond to Giant with a marathon? I would also make the marathon a Greater than 10 hour rather than 14....but that is picking....which recovering people should not pick.... On our way back to PA..... Love, Jan PS----I really like your descriptions......very helpful for others------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </geyser-list/attachments/20070802/72b5b517/attachment.html>