In a message dated 6/12/2005 5:55:02 PM Mountain Standard Time, caros at aros.net writes: Heart Lake -snip- If we just go the 3 miles till you reach the Upper group and don't go all the way to Rustic, is it still worth the trip? Karen: Read again. From the trailhead to Paycheck Pass, atop the hill above the Upper Group, is about 5 1/2 miles, decidedly not just 3 miles. And at least in my opinion, doing only that would not be worth it. To really see anything of significance, you'd have to get at least as far as the Fissure Group. That's at least another mile (plus a few hundred feet vertical). Scott Bryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </geyser-list/attachments/20050613/68ba81d1/attachment.html>